Collett's shorter standard coaches started to appear just a year after the sleek 70' South Wales Sets debuted; looking the same in every way. For 6 years until August 1929 Swindow turned out these standard
designs. Very surprisingly, they even made them all to the same length, 57' along the sides, or 58'4" long including the bow-ends. Although most designs had bow-ends none of them were turned out with buckeye
couplings or Pullman gangways. Most coaches of this time had Collett's new 7' bogie.
In 1925 6 6-coach trains were outshopped with 2 each of E127, C54 & D94. In 1927 another 16 6-coach trains were outshopped with 2 each of E127, C54 & D95. And again in 1929 another 3 6-coach trains were outshopped with 2 each of D104, E136 & C54. The last 62 coaches to diagrams C58 and D104 were formed in to 6 Excursion Sets, but unlike later excursion sets these designs had compartments. |
Dimensions | |||
  | All except E113 & H25 | E113 & H25 | |
Width over cornices | 8' 11¼ | 8' 5¼ | |
Width over body at waist | 9' | 8'6 | |
Width over handles | 9' 3¾ | 8'11¾ | |
Height to gutters | 10' 7¼ | 10' 7¼ | |
Height to top of roof | 12' 61⁄16 | 12' 2¼ | |
Height over ventilators | 13' 0¼ | 12'9½ | |
Diagrams E113 and H25 were built for the minor cross-country services where there was a particularly small loading gauge. |
Diagram | Dimensions Length x Width Wheelbase | Numbers | Conversions | ||
8 compartment corridor third |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
12 built in 1925 6 built in 1926 70 built in 1926 2 built in 1926 24 built in 1927 32 built in 1927 86 built in 1928 41 built in 1929 2 converted from J10 in 1935 |
4545 to 4556 4557 to 4562 4776 to 4854 4855 & 4856 4857 to 4880 4891 to 4912 5001 to 5086 5143 to 5154, & 5156 to 80 5140 & 5142 |
Corridor Side
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All were condemned between 1958 and 1964.
4546, 4553, 4777, 4786, 4787, 5043, 5085 are preserved. See how the restoration of 4786 is progressing |
Corridor Side |
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8 compartment corridor third |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 9' heavy bogie |
1 built in 1929 | 5155 | Condemned in 1961. | |
8 compartment corridor third |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
50 built in 1929 | 5181 to 5230 | All were condemned between 1958 & 1963. | |
3 compartment corridor brake third |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
12 built in 1925 7 built in 1925 |
4751 to 4762 4763 to 4769 |
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All were condemned between 1957 & 1962. |
4 compartment corridor brake third |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
32 built in 1927 46 built in 1928 |
4913 to 4944 5087 to 5132 |
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All were condemned between 1957 & 1962. |
4 compartment corridor brake third |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
7 built in 1929 12 built in 1929 |
5133 to 5139 5231 to 5242 |
All were condemned between 1958 & 1963. | |
6 compartment corridor brake composite |
57' x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 9' light bogie |
16 built in 1923 | 7949 to 7964 |
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Nos. 7949 to 7657 fitted with Westinghouse and Vacuum brakes
7950 received Collett 9' light pressed steel bogies in 1939 All were condemned between 1957 & 1962. |
6 compartment corridor brake composite |
57' x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 9' light bogie |
25 built in 1923 | 7965 to 7989 | Nos. 7965 to 7973 fitted with Westinghouse and Vacuum brakes
7965 received Collett 9' light pressed steel bogies in 1939 All were condemned between 1957 & 1962. |
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7 compartment corridor composite (left hand) |
57' x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 9' light bogie |
10 built in 1923 | 7605 to 7607, 7611, 7613, 7615, 7617, 7619, 7621, 7623 | 7617received Collett 9' light pressed steel bogies in 1939
All were condemned between 1957 & 1962. |
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7 compartment corridor composite (right hand) |
57' x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 9' light bogie |
10 built in 1923 | 7608 to 10, 7612, 7614, 7616, 7618, 7620, 7622, 7624 | All were condemned between 1957 & 1961. | |
7 compartment corridor composite (left hand) |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
7 built in 1929 12 built in 1929 |
6519 to 22, 6525 to 6528, 6530 to 6532, 6536
6024, 6026, 6029, 6030, 6034, 6047, 6050, 6068, 6099, 6105, 6135, 6137, 6138, 6145, 6146, 6149, 6150, 6155, 6156, 6158, 6160, 6167, 6181, 6187, 6192, 6194, 6198, 6201, 6203, 6209, 6211 |
All were condemned between 1956 & 1962. | |
6 compartment corridor brake composite |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
22 built in 1926 | 6475 to 6481, 6483, 6491 to 6495, 6497, 6498, 6512 to 6518 |
Note that it has been turned into an open coach. This is the former corridor side and the nearest door has had an additional right hand door added for wheelchair access.
This is the compartment side and it remains original. |
All were condemned between 1958 & 1963. |
7 compartment corridor composite (left hand) |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
52 built in 1928 | 6011 to 6016, 6018 to 6023, 6025, 6027, 6031, 6032, 6035, 6038 to 45, 6047, 6051, 6054, 6055, 6065, 6066, 6067, 6070, 6072 to 6074, 6076 to 6083, 6085, 6089 to 6094, 6096 |
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See the history of the restoration of 6046. There are also many detail photos of this lovely coach.
All were condemned between 1958 & 1962. |
7 compartment corridor composite (left hand) |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
4 built in 1929 | 6101 to 6104 | All were condemned between 1958 & 1962. | |
third class saloon |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
10 built in 1929 | 9101 to 9110 |
© Geof Sheppard / CC BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)
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All were condemned between 1960 & 1961. |
Corridor Composite Diner 2 first class dining tables, kitchen, 3 third class dining tables |
57' x 8'6 flat ends 50'6 wheelbase 9' bogie |
6 built in 1924 | 9562 to 9567 | All were condemned between 1959 & 1961. | |
Corridor Composite Diner 2 first class dining tables seating 4 and 2 first class dining tables seating 2, kitchen, 6 third class dining tables seating 4 |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
4 built in 1925 | 9578 to 9581 |
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9580 converted to All were condemned between 1959 & 1961. |
8 compartment corridor third class sleeper 3 compartments each with 4 beds and 5 compartments with seats |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
3 built in 1928 | 5140 to 5142 |
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5140 & 5142 converted to all third C54 in 1935. 5141 converted to composite sleeper J15 in 1935. |
8 compartment corridor composite sleeper 3 compartments each with 4 third class beds and 4 compartments each with a single first class bed, 1 attendant's compartment |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
1 converted in 1935 from J10 | 9079 |
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Condemned in 1962. |
Gangwayed Passenger Brake Van |
58'4 x 9' 50'6 wheelbase 7' bogie |
6 built in 1926 | 1169 to 1174 | All were condemned between 1958 & 1963. |