Great Western Railway Collett Coaches

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The 1935 Excursion sets were the first purpose built excursion coaches operated by the GWR.   Previously excursion trains had been formed of standard coaches.   In 1929 50 corridor thirds (diagram C58) and 12 brake thirds (diagram D104) had been built for form 6 excursion sets of 10 or 11 coaches each. These coaches were virtually indistinguishable when compared to the contemporary C54 and D95 designs.

The 2 purpose built excursion sets of 1935 onwards featured open coaches with a centre corridor, there were tables at each set of seats so that meals could be served to the whole train, rather than a select few in the Dining Car.   In the third class coaches both toilets were at one end of the coach.   This resulted in no entrance door at the toilet end.   Instead the doors were approximately midway along the coach and at the other end.   In the brake thirds the only passenger doors were at the end with both toilets adjacent, followed by 2 bays of 4 seats on each side, a guard's compartment and luggage area that occupied half of the coach.   Like the Centenary coaches these coaches featured large square cornered picture windows that were opened by lowering the whole window.   These windows did not last long.   Starting in about 1938 they were gradually replaced with a fixed pane in a metal frame with sliding ventilators above.   At the same time the corners of the frame were changed to rounded corners at the bottom.

The first set had a pair of purpose built kitchen cars and the train was formed: D119 x2, C68x6 and H42x2.   An offical photograph of the train shows the formation as D119, C68, H42, C68x4, H42, C68 & D119. The second set was first formed in 1936 amd only used 2 each of the thirds and brake thirds, the remaining coaches being 4 Dining Thirds (H52) and 2 Kitchen Cars (H49) from the disbanded and just rebuilt articulated sets.   This train was formed D119, H52, H49, H52, C68x2, H52, H49, H52, D119.

The following year additional thirds (C71) were built to replace the Dining Thirds from the articulated sets and increase the number of seats in the second set.   These had the later design of window from the start, but with square corners at the bottom.

Two further excursion sets followed in 1937.   In addition to the 10 coach sets there were 15 additonal spare thirds and a pair of spare kitchen cars which could be used to lengthen any of the excursion sets.   As you'd expect with the GWR the design of the coaches was not the same.   The brake thirds had twice the number of seats and a smaller luggage area.   The third class coaches had toilets at opposite ends; one on each side with an entrance door opposite. The mid door was retained. To accomodate the repositioned toilet on one side there was a half-bay seat for 2 with a table at each end.

Dimensions
Width over cornices 8' 11⅛
Width over body at waist 9'
Height to gutters 10' 6½
Height to top of roof 12' 5⅜
Height over ventilators 12' 11
Length over sides 60' 0
Wheelbase 53' 6

Diagram Dimensions
Length x Width
Wheelbase

Numbers
Conversions
C68

third saloon, centre-corridor, 2 lavatories

2 doors each side.

60' x 9'

53'6 wheelbase

8 built in 1935 4563 to 4570 All were condemned between 1962 and 1965.
C71

third saloon, centre-corridor, 2 lavatories

2 doors each side.

60' x 9'

53'6 wheelbase

10 built in 1936 4158 to 4167 All were condemned in 1964.
C74

third saloon, centre-corridor, 2 lavatories

2 doors each side.


No. 6515 @ South Devon Railway 2012 © Geof Sheppard / CC BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)

60' x 9'

53'6 wheelbase

27 built in 1937 1271 to 1297
No. 1295 @ Bishops Bridge Loop, South Devon Railway 2016 © Nathan Williamson


No. 1295 @ Totnes Riverside 2017 © Nathan Williamson
Showing the half seating bays at each end with a full height non-opening window.

All were condemned between 1964 and 1970.
D119

brake third saloon, centre-corridor, 2 lavatories

1 door each side at the end

60' x 9'

53'6 wheelbase

4 built in 1935 4571 to 4574 All were condemned between 1962 and 1964.
D123

brake third saloon, centre-corridor, 2 lavatories

1 door each side at the end

60' x 9'

53'6 wheelbase

4 built in 1937 1298 to 1301 All were condemned in 1964/5.
H42

Kitchen Car

1 kitchen, 1 pantry, 1 lavatory, 1 luggage compartment, 1 refrigerator, 1 stores

60' x 9'

53'6 wheelbase

2 built in 1935 9633 & 9634
R Spratt Collection
All were condemned in 1962.
H54

Kitchen Car

1 kitchen, 1 pantry, 1 lavatory, 1 luggage compartment, 1 refrigerator, 1 stores

60' x 9'

53'6 wheelbase

6 built in 1937 9663 to 9668
H54 No. 9663 © GWR
All were condemned in 1962, except 9665 which was condemned in 1960.

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