Diagram | Dimensions Length x Width Wheelbase | Lewis Class. | No. Built | Numbers | Conversions & Condemnation | ||
7 compartment first
C79 7 compartment third | 50' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 42' wheelbase | CEE7W | 20 built in 1896 10 built in 1899 10 built in 1901 |
(8)263 to (8)282 (8)284 to (8)293 (8)304 to (8)313 |
C79 - Third class between 1938 and 1941
325 to 329, 331 to 333 334 to 340 1981 to 1988 337, ex 8288, was converted to DW286 in 1952 338, ex 8291, was converted to Camping Coach 9910 in 1952 and survived until 1964. All first class coaches were condemned by the end of 1948. The last 3rd class coach was condemned in 1955, but most only lasted until 1950 at best. |
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7 compartment third | 40' x 8' | CAA12N | 10 built in 1880 | 1235 to 1237, 1239 to 1245 | 1236 & 1237 were converted to Broad Gauge in 1888 and back to Standard Gauge in 1892.
1235 went to R&SB (third 68) returned to GWR in 1923 became third 4219
1264 became service vehicle 14927 All condemned between 1929 and 1931. |
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8 compartment third | 46' x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 36' wheelbase | CAE7N | 20 built in 1890 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames | Broad Gauge 576 to 595 - Standard Gauge 2111 to 2130 |
1767 converted to Parcels Van M28 ca.1940
1876 converted to Engineering Department Workman's Coach 80923 in 1942, cond.1950 Most condemned by 1948, except: 1766 - 1932 1768, 1772 - 1933 1769 - 1934 1770 - 1936 1771 - 1946 1839, 1912, 1917 - 1948 1881 - 1953. |
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10 built 1891 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames | Broad Gauge 600 to 609 |
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20 built in 1889 | 1753 to 1772 | ||||||
30 built in 1890 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames | Broad Gauge 610 to 639 |
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20 built in 1890 | 1779 to 1795 | ||||||
20 built in 1891 | 1839 to 1858 | ||||||
80 built in 1892 | 1859 to 1938 | ||||||
8 compartment third | 46' x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 36' wheelbase | CEE7N | 10 built in 1891 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames | Broad Gauge 689 to 698 - Standard Gauge 2201 to 2210 |
Most condemned by 1948, except:
2263 - 1949 2224 - 1957 |
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20 built in 1892 | 2211 to 2230 | ||||||
14 built in 1892 | 2251 to 2264 | ||||||
20 built in 1892 | 2265 to 2284 | ||||||
8 built in 1893 | 2285 to 2292 | ||||||
7 compartment third | 40' x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 29'6 wheelbase | CAE7N | 40 built in 1889 | 1799 to 1838 | 1799, 1823, 1824, 1831, 1836 & 1837 converted to Workman's, all in 1933, except 1823 in 1936.
1808 to R&SB 56 in 1914. Renumbered 4207 when returned in 1922. 1815 converted to Parcels Van M27 in 1940 1823 'Painted brown' - 1941 1818, 1821 - 1932 1800, 1805, 1812, 1813, 1822, 1826, 1828, 1832, 1834, 4207 - 1933 1804, 1806, 1807, 1811, 1820, 1830 - 1934 1814, 1817, 1825, 1829, 1835, 1836 - 1935 1801, 1810, 1816, 1827 - 1936 1799, 1803, 1833 - 1937 1802, 1809, 1819, 1824, 1837, 1838 - 1938 1831 - 1939 1823 - 1944 |
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8 compartment third | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CEE7N | 6 built in 1890 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames | Broad Gauge 659 to 664   Standard Gauge 2171 to 2176 |
All condemned by 1948. | ||
8 compartment third | 46'6 x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies 38'6 wheelbase | CEE7N | 20 built in 1893 | 2843 to 2862 | 1181 converted to Breakdown Mess Van 172
1185, 2938 converted to Engineering Department Van 14930, 14604 1208, 1941, 2997, 3031 converted to Mess & Travelling Vans 14196, 14198, 14246, 14218 1243, 1266, 3030 converted to Pilot Vans 14806, 14209, 14808 1257, 3032 converted to Mess & Tool Vans 14222, 238 1971 & 3026 used on Glyncorrwg, North Rhondda line from 1952 2925, 2931, 2945, 3005, 3067 & 3131 converted to M28 ca.1940 3108 converted to Mess Van Most were condemed by 1950, with approximately ¼ being condemed in 1948 and 1949:- 1210, 1233, 1959, 3092 - 1950 1180, 1259, 3032, 3091, 3215 - 1951 3006, 3033, 3113 - 1953 3204 - 1954 1219 - 1955 3026 - 1957 1209, 1971 -1958 |
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25 built in 1894 | 2908 to 2932 | ||||||
30 built in 1895 in two batches | 2933 to 2965 1944 to 1953 | ||||||
90 built in 1896 in four batches | 2993 to 3012 3013 to 3032 3033 to 3052 3053 to 3082 | ||||||
60 built in 1897 in three batches | 3083 to 3112 3113 to 3132 3183 to 3192 | ||||||
10 built in 1898 | 1954 to 1959, 1969, 1971 to 1973 | ||||||
10 built in 1899 | 3193 to 3202 | ||||||
55 built in 1900 in five batches | 3203 to 3217 | ||||||
20 built in 1901 | 1188 to 1192, 1194, 1199, 1202, 1203, 1205, 1208, 1209 to 1211, 1214 to 1217, 1219, 1220 | ||||||
10 built in 1902 | 1172, 1173, 1179, 1180 to 1182, 1184 to 1187 | ||||||
8 compartment second/third composite with 6 lavatories | 56' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1897 | (6)955 to (6)964 Thirds 1053 to 1062 |
Condemned by end of 1948. | ||
8 compartment second - later third class | 50' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 42' wheelbase | CEE7W | 30 built in 1901 in three batches | (5)260 to (5)274 (5)231 to (5)240 (5)275 to (5)279 |
Third class numbers after 1912 1351, 1353 to 1355, 1359, 1361 to 1364, 1366 to 1369, 1371, 1373 1331, 1333, 1336 to 1339, 1341 to 1343, 1349 1375, 1376, 1379, 1382, 1383 |
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1331 converted to Mess & Travelling Van 14235
1333 converted to M31 in 1941 1339 used on Glyncorrwg, North Rhondda line from 1952 1342 converted to Sleeping & Messing Van 239 1353, 1379 converted to Engineering Department Vans 14977, 14978 1355 converted to Engineering Department Mess & Tool Van 14115 1361 & 1367 converted to Engineering Department Mess & Travelling Van 14204 & 14203 1376 converted to Pilot Van 14192 |
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8 compartment third | 46'6 x 8'6 8'6 Dean bogies 38'6 wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1902 10 built in 1903 25 built in 1903 10 built in 1904 |
1156, 1159 to 1162, 1164, 1165, 1167, 1170, 1177 1302 to 1306, 1311, 1316, 1319, 1320,1322 1330, 1332, 1335, 1340, 1344, 1346, 1352, 1356, 1357, 1360 1345, 1347, 1350, 1358, 1372, 1375, 1377, 1378, 1380, 1381 |
1303, 1322 1375 converted to Mess & Tool Vans 14278(in 1946), 14292, 14293
1305 converted to M28 in 1940 1306 converted to Engineering Department Workman's Coach 14220 in 1948 1304 converted to Dowlais Workman's with pedestal brake fitted in one compartment in 1939 1319, 1318 converted to Pilot Vans 14522, 14807 1302 - 1938 1304 - 1948 |
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10 compartment third | 58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 35 built in 1903 5 built in 1904 20 built in 1904 |
3248 to 3272 1001 to 1005 1009 to 1028 |
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6 compartment centre brake third with luggage | 40' x 8' | CAA12B then CAE12CN |
6 built in 1880 6 built in 1881 12 built in 1882 in 2 batches all built as Broad Gauge coaches and converted to Standard Gauge in 1891/2 |
BG 431 to 436 2087 to 2092 BG 437 to 442 BG 444 & 445 BG 446 to 455 |
Compartments are: 3x 3rd, Guard & luggage, 3x 3rd |
1928 - 2097 1929 - 2088, 2091, 2099, 2100, 2107, 2109, 2110 1930 - 2087, 2090, 2093 to 2095, 2101, 2102, 2106 1931 - 2092, 2096, 2098, 2103 1932 - 2089, 2105, 2108 1933 - 2104 |
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6 compartment centre brake third with luggage | 46'6 x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies | CAA12N | 30 built in 1884 | 1569 to 1598 | Compartments are: 3x 3rd, Guard & luggage, 3x 3rd |
1911 - 1582
others converted to D64 between 1920 and 1925 1931 - 1933 |
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7 compartment centre brake third | 48'6 x 8' | CAE7N | 30 built in 1889 24 built in 1891 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames |
1723 to 1752 Broad Gauge Standard Gauge |
All converted to D54 between 1911 and 1918 | ||
6 compartment brake third then 7 compartment brake composite then 7 compartment brake third |
48'6 x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 2 built in 1891 | 2081 & 2082 | Mail compartment converted to a pair of lavatories and third class compartment, total seating 56, similar to the lower diagram, 2081 no date, 2082 in 1896 when it was also renumbered 2080.
There is no evidence in the carriage registers that either had a first class compartment suggesting it was either short-lived or it didn't happen.
1932 - 2080 |
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Guard's projections removed became diagram 1935 - 2081 |
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5 compartment brake third | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CEE7N | 10 built in 1890 4 built in 1891 |
2231 to 2240 2809 to 2812 |
1924 - 2239 1932 - 2231, 2237 1933 - 2235 1934 - 2234 1935 - 2231, 2236, 2238, 2240 1936 - 2233, 2812 1937 - 2809 1938 - 2811 1940 - 2810 |
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3 compartment brake third | 48'6 x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CEE7N | 10 built in 1890 4 built in 1891 |
2241 to 2250 2801 to 2804 2245 was built in 1895 |
1895 - 2245 1932 - 2243, 2244, 2247 1933 - 2241, 2802, 2804 1935 - 2248 1936 - 2250, 2803 1938 - 2245, 2246, 2249 1943 - 2801 1946 - 2242 |
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4 compartment brake third | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CEE7N | 4 built in 1892 | 2805 to 2808 | 1936 - 2806 1948 - 2808 |
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Guards lookouts removed became 1938 - 2805, 2807 |
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3 compartment brake third |
50' x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies 42' wheelbase | CEE7N | 5 built in 1894 | 2818 to 2822 | 1932 - 2818, 2821 1936 - 2819, 2820 1937 - 2822 |
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4 compartment brake third | 50' x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies 42' wheelbase | CEE7N | 5 built in 1893 25 built in 1894 30 built in 1895 in two batches |
2813 to 2817 2883 to 2907 2973 to 2982 2953 to 2972 |
2813 converted to composite (6)863 in 1894, converted back in 1910 as 2396
2815 converted to composite (6)864 in 1894, converted back in 1910 as 2397 2959 converted to composite (6)865 in 1894, converted back in 1910 as 2398 2960 converted to composite (6)866 in 1894, converted back in 1910 as 2399 2971 converted to composite (6)719 in 1906, converted back in 1912 as 2971 2816, 2886, 2888, 2892, 2894, 2895, 2957, 2982 converted to Workman's Coaches 1932 - 2396 1936 - 2891, 2971, 2974, 2977 1937 - 2883, 2890, 2900, 2962, 2976, 2979 1938 - 2397, 2398, 2814, 2816, 2817, 2884, 2887, 2888, 2896, 2898, 2901, 2902, 2906, 2953, 2955, 2958, 2964, 2969, 2972, 2981 1939 - 2904, 2905, 2907 1940 - 2885, 2886, 2897, 2956, 2957, 2973, 2978, 2980 1945 - 2889 1947 - 2892 1948 - 2907 1949 - 2954 1950 - 2894, 2982 |
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Guards lookouts removed became 1931 - 2966 1936 - 2903 1937 - 2893 1938 - 2965, 2967, 2970 1939 - 2968 1940 - 2399 1949 - 2895, 2963 1951 - 2961 |
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4 compartment brake third | 50' x 8'6 42' wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1897 | 3391 to 3400 | c/f D24 but only 1 set of double doors in luggage van | 3399 converted to Parcels Van M29 in 1940
1938 - 3391, 3392, 3395 to 3397 1940 - 3394, 3400 1948 - 3398 1949 - 3393 |
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4 compartment brake third | 50' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 42' wheelbase | CEE7W | 20 built in 1897 in two batches 30 built in 1899 in 3 batches 15 built in 1900 in 2 batches 10 built in 1902 12 built in 1903 |
3381 to 3290 3341 to 3350 3321 to 3330 3311 to 3320 3401 to 3410 2301 to 2306, 2864, 2881, 2959 & 2960 2307 to 2311 2317 to 2326 3455 to 3466 |
2317 converted to Engineering Mess Room 80955
3329 altered to brake composite 976 (2x 2nd and 2x 3rd class compartments) in 1904 and back to brake third in 1909 3458 converted to Pilot Van 14541 1900 - 3390 1911 - 3387, 3461 1933 - 2303 1936 - 2317, 3346 1937 - 3408 1938 - 2305, 2309, 2319, 2326, 2959, 2960, 3311, 3314, 3321, 3323, 3327, 3342, 3345, 3347, 3348, 3350, 3381, 3384, 3386, 3401, 3404 1939 - 2311, 3325, 3328, 3341, 3385, 3457 1940 - 2304, 2864, 3318, 3319, 3322, 3326, 3329, 3344, 3349, 3388, 3402, 3405, 3409 1942 - 3456 1943 - 3320 1944 - 2320, 2324 1945 - 2881, 3313 1946 - 2323, 3389 1947 - 3459 1948 - 2306, 2310, 2318, 2321, 2322, 3330, 3382, 3406, 3462, 3466 1949 - 2301, 2308, 2325, 3314, 3317, 3410, 3458, 3460, 3464, 3465 1950 - 3403 |
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Guards lookouts removed became 1938 - 3383, 3407 1939 - 3346 1940 - 3463 1947 - 2302 1948 - 3316, 3324 1949 - 2307 1950 - 3455 1951 - 3315 |
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5 compartment brake third | 50' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 42' wheelbase | CEE7W | 5 built in 1901 | 2312 to 2316 | 2314 converted to Mess & Tool Van 14011
Only 2312 had the guard's lookouts removed. 1946 - 2313 1947 - 2315, 2316 1948 - 2314 1949 - 2312 |
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3 compartment brake third | 50' x 8'6 42' wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1901 | 3435 to 3444 | 3436 converted to Parcels Van M30 in 1940
1938 - 3443 1939 - 3438, 3439, 3441 1946 - 3435, 3437 1947 - 3436, 3440, 3442 1950 - 3444 |
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4 compartment centre brake third | 48'6 x 8' | CAE7N | 54 converted from D4 between 1911 and 1918 | 1723 to 1752 2177 to 2200 |
distinguishable by the 3 ventillators in the clerestory above the van area. |
Originally there was a pair of double doors adjacent to the passenger compartments. Many coaches have an entry in the registers that states "One pair luggage doors fastened up on either side and one ¼
light provided each side of Guards Compartment" 1929 - 1726 1932 - 1723, 1735, 1736, 1746, 2178, 2195, 2199 1933 - 1724, 1728, 1737, 1739, 1743, 2183, 2189, 2194, 2200 1934 - 1725, 1727, 2184, 2192, 2193, 2198 1935 - 1730, 1732, 1734, 2179 1936 - 1731, 1744, 1749, 1750, 2177, 2181, 2188 1937 - 1729, 1742, 1747, 2196 1938 - 1733, 1741, 2180, 2182 1939 - 2187, 2190, 2191 1949 - 2186 No date - 2185 |
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Guards lookouts removed became 1932 - 1745, 1748, 1752 1933 - 1738 1937 - 1740 1938 - 1751, 2197 |
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3 compartment brake third | 46'6 x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies | CAA12N | 30 converted from D3 between 1920 and 1925 | 1569 to 1581, 1583 to 1598 | Converted by converting 3 compartments into a luggage compartment. The original guard/luggage compartment doors were changed to a single door and window. The new luggage compartment had one pair of double doors. | 1931 - 1571 to 1579, 1584, 1585, 1588 to 1590, 1592 to 1594, 1596, 1597
1932 - 1569, 1570, 1580, 1581, 1595, 1598 1933 - 1583, 1587 1934 - 1591 1935 - 1586 |
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5 compartment composite with centre luggage |
38'6 x 8' Built with 7' rigid 'bogies', later converted to 6'4 Dean bogies 29'6 wheelbase (as built) | CAA12B then CAE12CN |
1 built in 1874 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge 282 Converted to Standard Gauge (6)965 |
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6 compartment composite with central luggage compartment | 45'6 x 8' Built with 7' rigid 'bogies', later converted to 6'4 Dean bogies | CAA12B then CAE12CN |
1 built in 1874 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge BG 283 Converted to Standard Gauge (6)966 |
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6 compartment composite with central luggage compartment |
12 built in 1876 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge 293-304 Converted to Standard Gauge (6)967-75/7/8 |
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6 compartment composite with central luggage compartment |
46'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies |
8 built in 1876 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge 305 to 312 Converted to Standard Gauge (6)979 to (6)986 |
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12 built in 1876 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge 422 to 433 Converted to Standard Gauge (6)995 to (7)1006 | ||||||
4 built in 1882 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge 414 to 417 Converted to Standard Gauge (6)987 to (6)990 | ||||||
6 compartment composite |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' rigid 'bogies', later converted to 6'4 Dean bogies 32' wheelbase (as built) | CAA12N | 2 built in 1878 | (6)580 & (6)581 | Originally built with sleeper compartments which were converted to ordinary compartments by the time to diagram index was setup | ||
6 compartment composite with centre brake |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' rigid 'bogies', later converted to 6'4 Dean bogies 32' wheelbase (as built) | CAA12N | 6 built in 1878 | (6)982 to (6)587 | Originally built with sleeper compartments which were converted to ordinary compartments by the time to diagram index was setup | ||
5 compartment brake composite |
40' x 8' Built with 7' rigid 'bogies', later converted to 6'4 Dean bogies 32' wheelbase (as built) | CAA12B then CAE12CN |
8 built in 1879 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge 434 to 439, 444 and 445 Converted to Standard Gauge (7)1007 to (7)1012, (7)1017 and (7)1018 |
Compartments are: |
Wheelbase of narrow gauge conversions varied:
7014 - 28' |
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5 compartment composite with luggage and lavatory |
4 built in 1879 as Broad Gauge | Broad Gauge 440 to 443 Converted to Standard Gauge (7)1013 to (7)1016 |
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5 compartment centre brake composite | 40' x 8' Built with 7' Rigid 'bogies' later converted to with 8'6 Dean bogies 32' wheelbase (as built) |
CAA9N | 8 built in 1880 | (6)588 to (6)595 | Recorded as being built "For Manchester traffic".
6592 had 6'4 bogies, wheelbase 29' 6588 to workman's third no. 630 (5 compartments plus 1 large compartment) in 1930 1929 - 6589, 6590 1930 - 6591, 6592 1931 - 6593, 6595 1936 - 630 |
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Guards lookouts removed became E123
1931 - 6594 |
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6 compartment composite with central luggage |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' rigid 'bogies', later converted to 8'6 Dean bogies 38'6 wheelbase | CAA12N | 8 built in 1880 | (6)650 to (6)657 | E10 and E13 were externally identical. Internally E10 had offset armrests in 1st, whilst E13 had armrests between all seats
6736 to third 650 6737 & 6742 to R&SB 47 & 48. Renumbered 6472 to 6473 when returned |
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6 compartment composite with central luggage |
12 built in 1880 | (6)736 to (6)747 | |||||
6 compartment composite with central luggage and lavatory |
4 built in 1882 | (6)658 to (6)661 | E11 and E14 were externally identical. Internally E11 had offset armrests in 1st, whilst E14 had armrests between all seats.
6747 & 6750 to thirds 603 & 602 |
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6 compartment composite with luggage and lavatory |
12 built in 1882 | (6)748 to (6)755 | |||||
6 compartment centre brake composite with lavatory |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' Rigid 'bogies' later probably converted to with 6'4 Dean bogies 34' wheelbase (as built) | CAA12B then CAE12CN |
4 built in 1882 | Broad Gauge 418 to 421 Converted to Standard Gauge (6)991 to (6)994 |
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6 compartment centre brake composite |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' Rigid 'bogies' later converted to with 6'4 Dean bogies 34' wheelbase (as built) later 33'6 | CAA12N | 8 built in 1883 | (6)756 to (6)763 | |||
6 compartment tri composite with central luggage |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' Rigid 'bogies' later converted to with 6'4 Dean bogies 34' wheelbase (as built) later 33'6 | CAA12N | 12 built in 1883 10 built in 1885 |
(6)764 to (6)785 (6)806 to (6)815 |
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6 compartment composite with luggage and 2 lavatories | 46'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 36' wheelbase | CAE7N | 15 built in 1888 | (6)848 to (6)862 | Converted to E18 by removing a seat from the righthand 2 compartments so that all 1st class compartments had access to a toilet.
6850, 6853, 6856, 6858, 6861 & 6862 to Camping coaches 9966 to 9969, 9978 & 9979 |
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6 compartment brake tri composite |
48' x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 11 built in 1889 | (6)837 to (6)847 | 6821 had guards projections removed in 1931
Condemned between 1930 and 1936 |
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7 compartment tri composite with central luggage |
48' x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 9 built in 1889 | (6)828 to (6)836 | Condemned between 1932 and 1936 | ||
6 compartment brake composite |
46'6 x 8' 6'6 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 6 built in 1890 | (6)725 to (6)730 | 6728 had guards projections removed in 1927
Condemned between 1931 and 1934, except 6728 in 1949 |
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7 compartment brake tri composite (with Double Coupé) | 48'6 x 8' 8'6 Dean bogies ? 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 1 built in 1899 as Standard Gauge body on Broad Gauge frame | Broad Gauge 566 Converted to Standard Gauge (7)1033 |
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All condemned between 1928 and 1936 | |
7 compartment brake tri composite (with Double Coupé) | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase |
6 built in 1889 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames 41 built in 1889 in two lots |
Broad Gauge 563 to 565, 567, 568 Converted to Standard Gauge (7)1030 to (7)1032, (7)1034, (7)1035
(6)732 (7)1301 to (7)1340 |
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6 compartment brake composite | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 3 built in 1890 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames | Broad Gauge 572, 573 & 580 Converted to Standard Gauge (7)1039, (7)1040 & (7)1044 |
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7044 to Camping coach 9970
1911 - 7040 1932 - 7039 1935 - 7044 |
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7 compartment composite with 2 lavatories | 46'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 36' wheelbase | CAE7N | 11 built in 1890 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge frames | Broad Gauge 581 to 591 Converted to Standard Gauge |
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7046, 7050, 7052, 7054 & 7055 to Camping coaches 9971 to 9975
1933 - 7047, 7049, 7053 1934 - 7045, 7051 1935 - 7046, 7050, 7052, 7054, 7055 1936 - 7048 |
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6 compartment composite with luggage and 2 lavatories | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 9 built in 1890 | Broad Gauge 569 to 571, 574, 575, 579, 613 to 615 Converted to Standard Gauge |
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7043 & 7058 to Camping coach 9980 & 9976
1932 - 7036, 7037, 7042, 7056, 7057 1933 - 7038, 7041 1935 - 7043, 7058 |
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6 compartment brake tri composite 6 compartment slip tri composite |
48'6 x 8' 6'6 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CEE7N | 6 built in 1890 | (7)1291 to (7)1300 | All were built with 4 off 3rd, 1 off 1st, 1 off 2nd, but for a short time 1296 had an additional 2nd class compartment as in the diagram.
Some time before 1912, numbers 7293 and 7297 had slip apparatus fitted.  In the 1912 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains - Working of Slip Coaches' they are listed as 'Double Ended Slips, which I think is in error.  The slip gear was removed some time before the publication of the 1925 programme. |
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7 compartment brake tri composite with lavatory (Single Coupé) |
48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 6 built in 1890 | (6)725 to (6)730 | |||
7 compartment brake tri composite with lavatories |
46'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 36' wheelbase | CAE7N | 30 built in 1891 | (7)1341 to (7)1360 | |||
6 compartment composite with luggage and 2 lavatories | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CAE7N | 20 built in 1890 | (7)381 to (7)400 |
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7390 , 7395, 7397, 7398 & 7400 to Camping coaches 9955 to 9959 | |
6 compartment composite with luggage and 2 lavatories | 48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CEE7N | 20 built in 1891 4 built in 1891 |
(7)1361 to (7)1380 (7)1401 to (7)1404 |
Compartments are: 2nd, 2nd, 1st, luggage, 1st, 2 lavatories, 1st, 2nd |
7367 to 7370, 7372, 7402 & 7403 to Camping coaches 9950 to 9954, 9960 & 9961 | |
6 compartment composite with luggage and 2 lavatories |
48'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 38' wheelbase | CEE7N | 6 built in 1892 | (7)1059 to (7)1064 | |||
6 compartment brake tri composite with 4 lavatories |
54' x 8'6 8'6 Dean bogies 43'8 wheelbase | CEE7W | 1 built in 1892 | (7)1289 | 1934 - 7289 | ||
6 compartment brake tri composite with 4 lavatories |
54' x 8'6 8'6 Dean bogies 46' wheelbase | Royal Clerestory | 1 built in 1892 | (7)1290 | |||
7 compartment tri composite with 2 lavatories |
46'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 36' wheelbase | CEE7N | 10 built in 1892 | (7)1279 to (7)1288 | |||
6 compartment brake tri composite with 5 lavatories Falmouth 'coupé' 6 compartment slip tri composite with 5 lavatories |
56' x 8'6 8'6 Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 5 built in 1893 | (7)1254 to (7)1268 | 7266 had guards projections removed in 1925. | ||
7255 and 7258 had slip gear fitted became F6
Some time before 1912, numbers 7255 and 7258 had slip apparatus fitted.  The slip gear was removed some time before the publication of the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'. 7258 had guards projections removed became F22 |
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6 compartment brake tri composite with 5 lavatories 'coupé' 6 compartment slip tri composite with 5 lavatories |
56' x 8'6 8'6 Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1895 | (7)1228 to (7)1237 | Compared to E39, externally E41 has larger windows in the end 1st class compartment; internally the toilet compartments differ.
7230 & 7234 had guards projections removed became E121 |
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7231, 7232 and 7237 had slip gear fitted became F7
Some time before 1912, numbers 7231, 7232 and 7237 had slip apparatus fitted.  With the exception of 7237, the slip gear had been removed some time before the publication of the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'. |
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5½ compartment brake tri composite with 5 lavatories |
52' x 8'6 8'6 Dean bogies 44' wheelbase | CEE7W | 1 built in 1895 | (6)715 | 6715 had guards projections removed became E107
1933 - 6715 |
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7 compartment brake tri composite with 5 lavatories |
56' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 1 built in 1895 | (6)716 | 1948 - 6716 | ||
6 compartment brake composite with 4 lavatories |
56' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 3 built in 1895 | (7)1592 to (7)1594 | The lavatory adjacent to the guard and luggage compartment was removed from all 3 coaches around 1915. | ||
6½ compartment brake tri composite with luggage and 5 lavatories 6½ compartment slip tri composite with luggage and 5 lavatories |
58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1896 | (7)1238 to (7)1247 | 7242 & 7248 had the toilet at the guards end removed when 2nd class was converted to 3rd class
7238, 7241 and 7243 converted to Slip coaches by installing Slip gear in the guards compartment. All had had it removed by 1925. All but one were built with steam heating. |
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6 compartment brake tri composite with luggage and 4 lavatories |
56' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 6 built in 1896 | (7)1584 to (7)1589 | All except 1589 were built with Westinghouse brakes for working over other company routes, all removed in 1929
7584 to 7586 marked "Return to Cardiff" in 1908 for Cardiff to Newcastle service. |
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7 compartment tri composite with 6 lavatories |
54'6 x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 46'6 wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1897 | (7)1204 to (7)1213 | |||
7 compartment composite with luggage and 6 lavatories | 58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 15 built in 1897 12 built in 1898 5 built in 1899 |
(7)1189 to (7)1203 (7)1153 to (7)1164 (7)1145 to (7)1149 |
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6 compartment brake tri composite with 5 lavatories |
58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 2 built in 1898 | (7)1165 to (7)1166 | Built with E61 for the Bournemouth service | ||
6 compartment brake tri composite with 5 lavatories |
58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 2 built in 1898 | (7)1167 to (7)1168 | Built with E60 for the Bournemouth service
7167 guards lookout removed in 1929 |
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7 compartment composite with 6 lavatories |
53' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 45' wheelbase | CEE7W | 15 built in 1898 3 built in 1898 |
(7)1174 to (7)1188 (7)1150 to (7)1152 |
The drawing shows that the left hand compartment was originally built as a third class compartment (only 5'6 wide), but that the last 6 coaches ran with it as a second class compartment.
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One coach (7183 or 7186) converted to Special Instruction Coach in May 1937
7184 - 1932 7150, 7151, 7152, 7175, 7176, 7177, 7178, 7180, 7185 - 1936 7179, 7183, 7186, 7188 - 1937 7174, 7181, 7187 - 1938 7182 - 1939 |
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6 compartment composite with 6 lavatories |
51' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 43' wheelbase | CEE7W | 4 built in 1898 | (7)1417 to (7)1420 | Built with D28 for the Bournemouth service | ||
7 compartment brake tri composite with 4 lavatories |
58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 30 built in 1901 in two batches | (7)1125 to (7)1144 (7)1115 to (7)1124 |
1907 - 7120
1911 - 7139 |
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Guards lookouts removed became E119
7127 only had 1 projection removed
1937 - 7131 1938 - 7117, 7127 |
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7 compartment luggage tri composite with 4 lavatories 2 first class, 2 second class and 3 third class compartments |
58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 10 built in 1902 6 built in 1903 |
(6)601 to (6)610(7)1628 to (7)1633 | Compartments are: Luggage, 3x 3rd with side corridor, 2x lav, 1st, 1st, 2x lav, 2x 2nd with side corridor |
1907 - 6604
1930 - 7631 1931 - 7630 1933 - 6603, 6606, 7628 1934 - 6607 1935 - 6601, 6609, 7629 1936 - 6605, 6608, 6610, 7632, 7633 1940 - 6602 |
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7 compartment brake tri composite with 4 lavatories 2 first class, 2 second class and 3 third class compartments |
58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 5 built in 1904 | (7)1110 to (7)1114 | |||
6 compartment double slip composite |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' Rigid 'bogies' later converted to with 6'4 Dean bogies 34' wheelbase (as built) later 33'6 | CAA12N | 2 built in 1880 4 built in 1882 as Standard Gauge bodies on Broad Gauge chassis |
208 & 239 renumbered (7)1073 & (7)1074 BG 480 to 483 |
All of these coaches appear in the 1912 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains - List of Slip Coaches'.
  But they are not in the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'.
  So the slip gear was removed before 1925.
1930 - 7019, 7022, 7074 1931 - 7020 1932 - 7073 |
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6 compartment double slip composite |
46'6 x 8' Built with 7' rigid 'bogies', later converted to 8'6 Dean bogies 34' wheelbase (as built) later 38'6 | CAA7TN | 2 built in 1886 | 209 & 210 renumbered (7)1071 & (7)1072 | All of these coaches appear in the 1912 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains - List of Slip Coaches'.
  But they are not in the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'.
  So the slip gear was removed before 1925.
1930 - 7021 1932 - 7072 1935 - 7071 |
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CAA12N | given 8'6 bogies when converted to Standard Gauge | 7021 | |||||
6 compartment slip tri composite |
46'6 x 8' 6'6 Dean bogies 36' wheelbase | CAE7N | 1 built in 1888 | Broad Gauge 494 Converted to Standard Gauge (7)1023 |
This coach appears in the 1912 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains - List of Slip Coaches'.
  But it does not appear in the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'; so its slip gear had removed by 1925.
1933 - 7023 |
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6 compartment double slip tri composite |
50' x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 39'6 wheelbase | CEE7N | 6 built in 1891 4 built in 1894 |
(7)1065 to (7)1070 (7)1075 to (7)1078 |
Most coaches had their slip gear removed in 1917 or 1918.
7078 had guard's projections removed at one end only in 1921. 1933 - 7065 1934 - 7070 1935 - 7077 1936 - 7069, 7075 1937 - 7067, 7078 1938 - 7068, 7076 1939 - 7066 |
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6 compartment double slip tri composite | 56' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies | CEE7W | 6 built in 1897 | (7)1079 to (7)1084 | All of these coaches appear in the 1912 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains - List of Slip Coaches'.
  But they are not in the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'.
  So the slip gear was removed by 1925.
  7079 & 7080 are recorded to have had the slip gear removed in 1918.
1938 - 7079, 7082, 7084, 1939 - 7080, 7083 1940 - 7081 |
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6 compartment double slip tri composite with 6 lavatories |
58' x 8'6 10' Dean bogies 48' wheelbase | CEE7W | 4 built in 1897 2 built in 1901 6 built in 1903 |
(7)1085 to (7)1088 (7)1093 to (7)1094 (7)1095 to (7)1100 |
The first batch were built for the Folkstone service.
All but 7086, 7093 & 7095 are listed as slip coaches in the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'. 1936 - 7085 to 7087, 7093 to 7097, 7098 1937 - 7099, 7110 1939 - 7088 |
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4 compartment slip composite with lavatories | 38'6 x 8'6 6'4 Dean bogies 30' wheelbase | CEE7W | 2 built in 1898 | (7)089 & (7)090 | All of these coaches appear in the 1912 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains - List of Slip Coaches'.
 But they are not in the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'. So their slip gear had removed by 1925.
1937 - 7090 1941 - 7089 |
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4 compartment slip composite with lavatories | 38'6 x 8'6 7'6 Dean bogies 30' wheelbase | CEE7W | 2 built in 1898 | (7)091 & (7)092 | Same as F11 except built without guard lookouts - viewed from the slip end |
All of these coaches appear in the 1912 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains - List of Slip Coaches'.
 But they are not in the 1925 'Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains'. So either the slip gear was removed or the coaches had been condemned by 1925.
1936 - 7091, 7092 |
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Composite Saloon |
38'6 x 8' 6'4 Dean bogies 28' wheelbase | Royal Clerestory | 1 built in 1892 | 247 renumbered 9043 ca1908 |
1936 - 9043 | ||
First Class Saloon |
45'6 x 8'6 8'6 Dean bogies 37'6 wheelbase | CEE7W | 2 built in 1896 | (8)231 and (8)232 renumbered 9035 & 9036 in 1907 |
Note the drawing shows the bogies are 10' wheelbase, but if you measure them they are 8'6".
Both had "Saloon" written in the waist panel in October 1930 9035 altered to Bristol Inspection Coach 80971 in 1941. Moved to Cardiff by 1956 when it was written "District Engineer Cardiff". Later moved to Newport. Preserved today on the Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway 1938 - 9036 |