Diagram | Dimensions Length x Width Wheelbase | Lewis Class. | No. Built | Numbers | Conversions | Scrapping Dates | |
4 compartment second later converted to third class
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25' x 8' 18' | LA9N | 100 built between 1871 and 1872 in 2 lots | 287 to 326
327 to 386 |
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253 to W6
340, 343, 356, 368, 380 to Brake second 5295, 5353 to Composite Third 370 became an Engineers Mess Van 14934 in 1914 Third 383 converted to Workman's Coach and Tool Van 80998 in 1907, cond. 1921 |
1912 to 1931
Details of all the coaches as in the GWR registers:
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5 compartment second/third
| 28' x 8' 16' | LA9N | 6 built in 1875 - 2nd class | 1 to 4, 6, 7 | |
1, 2, 6, 7, 212, 213, 214, 215 to T13 in 1878, 1886, 1882, 1886, 1890, 1890, 1880, 1879 |
4 (ex 2nd no.3), 224 - 1927 211, 331, 517 (ex 3rd no. 4) - 1928 213 - 1929 214 - 1930 227 - 1931 |
4 built in 1875 - 3rd class 6 converted from T13 |
212 to 215 211, 213, 214 224, 227, 331 (Workmens coaches) |
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5 compartment third 6 wheels | 28' x 8' 9'6 - 9'6 | LA9N | approx. 642 built between 1872 & 1884 |
1 to 8, 11, 13, 14, 16-20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 32-35, 38, 39, 40-45, 47, 51-53, 55-60, 62, 63, 72, 73, 103, 105, 106, 108, 109, 111-118, 120-123, 127-131, 134-138, 140, 141, 144-147, 149, 150, 151, 153, 154, 156-161, 163-169, 171-174, 176, 177, 187, 191, 194, 202, 203, 217-219, 221-223, 236, 277, 307, 310, 318, 355, 356, 362, 379, 381, 382, 384, 385, 389, 390, 392-394, 398, 432, 433, 447, 449, 451, 460, 469, 471, 492, 493, 496, 497, 501, 503, 505, 506, 509, 517, 523, 525, 530, 533, 535, 537-539, 541-543, 546, 547, 555, 576, 634, 678, 701-703, 705, 707-709, 714-724, 726, 728, 729, 730, 731, 734, 735, 737, 739, 741-747, 749-751, 754, 756, 759, 763-765, 767-769, 774, 778, 780, 783, 786, 793-795, 798, 805, 806, 808, 812, 814, 815, 840, 845, 847-850, 901, 903, 904, 908, 910, 914-916, 920, 922-928, 1007, 1008, 1066, 1068, 1080-1099, 1193, 1198, 1201, 1267, 1308, 1309, 1384-1473, 1524-1568, 1599-1648
443 built on a broad gauge chassis renumbered 1976 in 1892 when converted to standard gauge |
Middle axle removed - S4
T11, T12 694 in 1904, 1644 in 1897 T14 122, 271, 471, 523, 530, 714, 721, 847, 916, 1068, 1097, 1394, 1429, 1432, 1435, 1447, 1467 - ND 857 - 1904 870 - 1912 871 - 1905 874 - 1913 703 converted to Engineering Dept. Coach, Gloucester, 80942, in 1930 1099 converted to Engineering Coach, 14934, in 1920, cond. 1944 1619 converted to Sleeping Van, 80957, in 1930 1625 converted to Mess Van, 80958, in 1930 |
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5 compartment third 4 wheels | 28' x 8' 19' |
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built as 4 compartment third with central luggage compartment 6 wheels Most had the luggage compartment incorporated into one of the adjacent compartments.  For most conversions there are no dates, the only two dates recorded are 7/1907 & 7/1912. |
28' x 8' 9'6 - 9'6 | LA9N | 24 built 1874 The lot book says 25 were built, but only 24 are recorded in the stock book. The other was built as an S3. | 875 - 890, 893 - 900 |
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885 to Hounds Van | 877, 882 - 1909 886, 887, 895 - 1911 890 - 1912 875, 883, 884, 889, 896, 898 - 1913 876, 893 - 1914 880, 888, 899, 900 - 1915 881 - 1916 878 - 1917 897 - 1920 879 - 1921 894 - 1924 |
5 compartment third 6 wheels | 28' x 8' 9'6 - 9'6 | LA7TN | 1 built in 1885 (plus possibly some others) 20 built in 1886 20 built in 1886 - on Broad Gauge frames 6 converted from composites in 1909/1911 |
1208 1649 to 1668 Broad Gauge Nos. - 516 to 535 810, 811, 813, 816, 817, 1425 |
1663 and 1995 went to the R&SB in 1913 and were renumbered 4165 and 4170 when they returned in 1923
1208, 1651 and 1665 to 1668 converted to composites no.516 - 521 in 1897 816 & 1661 converted for use by Engineering Dept., 80917 & 80918 in 1931, cond. 1933/4 |
1992 - 1930 810, 817, 1649, 1653, 1662, 1984, 1988 - 1931 811, 1650, 1650, 1657, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 4165 - 1932 1656, 1664, 1983, 1997 - 1933 813, 1425, 1654, 1661, 1999, 4170 - 1934 1655, 1659 - 1935 1985, 1986, 2000 - 1936 2002 - 1937 1658 - 1938 2001 - 1946 |
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5 compartment third 6 wheels | 28' x 8' 9'6 - 9'6 | LE7N | 20 built in 1887 | 50, 64, 175, 216, 395 to 397, 424, 548, 549, 732, 740, 753, 757, 758, 770, 771, 782, 796, 1048 |
The axle box of the middle axle is just visible above the |
64 converted to 2nd no.171 in 1897, then to 3rd no.179 in 1910. It was then sent to the R&SB in 1915 and renumbered 4167 when it returned in 1925
549 converted to 2nd no.173 in 1897. Renumbered as 3rd no.819 in 1912 |
50, 758 - 1931 771, 796 - 1932 753 - 1934 175, 4167 - 1933 396, 548, 740 - 1934 395, 732, 819 - 1935 770 - 1936 1048 - 1938 |
5 compartment third 6 wheels | 28' x 8' 9'6 - 9'6 | LA4TN | 29 built in 1885 (some may have been built to diagram S6) |
23, 110, 132, 139, 148, 170, 477, 498, 706, 711, 733, 736, 738, 752, 772, 785, 801, 809, 906, 921, 1069, 1195, 1206, 1212, 1213, 1218, 1221, 1226, 1307 |
1195 converted to a chalet |
110, 132, 139, 170, 477, 498, 706, 733, 752, 785, 809, 1069, 1226, 1307 - 1931 736, 738, 906, 921 - 1932 148, 772, 1218 - 1933 23, 1221 - 1934 1195 - 1935 1206, 1212 - 1936 1213 - 1938 |
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5 compartment third 4 wheels | 28' x 8' 19' | LE7N | 10 built in 1891 10 built in 1894 10 built in 1894 20 built in 1895 2 built in 1896 11 built in 1900 15 built in 1902 5 built in 1902 2 converted from composites |
305, 320, 335, 386, 478, 480-483, 490 2701-2710 2735-2744 2757-2776 3601, 3602 902, 917, 930-934, 936-939 973-976, 978, 980-982, 984-990 977, 992-994, 996   12 ex 6197 92 ex 5076 |
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To seconds in 1899:
320 -> 77
then to composites except to thirds in 1910: 5045 -> 204
936 to Ballast Workman's Coach, Central Wales Division, 80952 977 to Mess Van 14928 980 to Engineering Department Mess Van 14138 985 to Workman's coach for Plymouth Division Engineering Dept. 14913 2769 to Breakdown Van 61 in 1935 |
482 - 1924 2702, 2741 - 1931 2703 - 1932 988, 2742 - 1933 989, 2708, 2737, 2740, 2767 - 1934 190, 974, 401, 403, 483, 490, 981, 2709, 2738, 2739, 2771, 2772 - 1935 478 - 1936 2757, 2758, 2768 - 1938 2743, 2770 - 1939 2705 - 1948 2706, 2776 - 1949 2766 - 1951 2775 - 1953 |
4 compartment third 6 wheel | 29' x 8' 9'6 x 9'6 | LA9N | 96 converted from R2 between 1912 to 1923 The stock register is not clear if the removal of the middle axle and conversion to workmen's third occurred at the same time or at different times. XX converted from U14 in 1915 |
455, 466, 473, 521, 522, 603, 612, 627, 633, 645, 684, 4174 | 522 sent to R&SB in 1919 and renumbered 4174 when it returned in 1923
603 sent to R&SB in 1917 and allocated 4197, but not renumbered, when it returned in 1923 645 to Pilot Van in 1918 627 - Body for Military Shelter 684 converted to 80939 in 1924 |
627 - 1914 466 - 1915 521 - 1917 612 - 1920 633 - 1922 603(4197) - 1924 4174 - 1925 455, 473 - 1928 |
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4 compartment workmen's third 6 wheel |
292, 504, 565, 592, 618, 687 | None | 504, 565 - 1924 292, 592 - 1927 618 - 1928 687 - 1930 |
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4 compartment third 4 wheel |
29' x 8' 19' |
380, 436, 486, 502, 504, 525, 527, 528, 549, 551, 559, 562, 591, 594, 608, 611(no. used twice), 618, 621, 626(no. used twice), 627, 635(no. used twice), 640, 641, 647, 648, 654, 655, 656, 670(no. used twice),
671, 672, 681, 683, 686, 688, 699, 700
472, 508, 633, 659, 681 from U14 |
528 sent to R&SB in 1915 and renumbered 4178 when it returned in 1924
380, 436, 486, 686 - Bodies for Military Shelters 656 sold to Tredegar Iron & Coal Co. in 1925 |
380, 436, 626 - 1914 486, 633, 686 - 1915 640 - 1917 626, 641, 699 - 1920 472, 502, 562, 594, 627, 635, 648, 654, 671, 700 - 1921 559, 608, 611, 621, 655, 670, 672, 688 - 1922 527, 551, 618, 659 - 1923 681 - 1924 525, 549, 647 - 1925 591, 683 - 1926 611 - 1927 635 - 1928 4178 - 1929 508 - 1930 504 not recorded |
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4 compartment workmen's third 4 wheel |
245, 290, 299, 361, 408, 434, 436, 438(no. used twice), 452, 458, 522, 526, 527, 529(no. used twice), 550, 560, 561, 566, 568, 598, 599, 600, 608, 609, 613, 616, 621, 641(no. used twice),
642, 643, 644, 668, 670, 671, 673, 682, 691, 855
638 from U14 |
438 - Body for Military Shelter | 438 - 1915 438, 529 - 1924 616 - 1925 642 - 1926 361, 434, 436, 522, 527, 560, 561, 566, 598, 599, 613, 621, 638, 668, 670, 671, 682 - 1927 245, 408, 452, 458, 526, 529, 550, 568, 600, 608, 641, 643, 644, 673 - 1928 290, 299, 609, 691, 855 - 1929 |
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5 compartment third | 30' x 8' | LE7N | 10 built in 1895 3 converted from composites in 1910/12 |
2745 to 2754 10, 15, 404 |
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2745 converted to 2nd no.51 in 1899, then to composite no.6205 in 1910.
2748 converted to composite no.135 in 1898 2749 converted to composite no.137 in 1898 |
10, 404, 2747, 2750, 2752, 2754 - 1932 2751 - 1934 2746 - 1937 2753 - 1938 |
5 compartment third | 30'1" x 8' | LE7N | 2 built in 1894 | 2043 & 2044 | None | 2044 - 1932 2043 - 1938 |
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5 compartment third | 31' x 8' | LE7N | 3 built in 1894 | 2045 to 2047 | None | 2045, 2047 - 1932 2044 - 1933 |
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4 compartment third with 2 lavatories and luggage space 6 wheels | 31' x 8' 11' - 11' | LE7N | 5 converted from T52 | 1694 to 1697, 1699 |
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None | 1695, 1699 - 1932 1697 - 1933 1696 - 1934 1694 - 1935 |
4 compartment third with 2 lavatories and luggage space 6 wheels | 31' x 8' 11' - 11' | LA7TN | 2 converted from T51 in 1894 | 2033, 2038 |
A survivor arriving at the Llanelli and Mynydd Mawr Railway photo © Kevin Stroud 2004 Vintage Carriage Trust |
None | 2033, 2038 - 1931 |
4 compartment second later converted to third class
| 24' x 8'6" 15' | LE4MW | 4 built in 1887 8 built in 1889 in 3 lots | Second class numbers: 9, 11, 32, 35 14 to 17 19, 21 36, 39
270, 277, 278, 1455 193, 1449 197, 412 |
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Renumbering | 412 - 1931 193, 269, 278, 1449, 1455 - 1932 186, 197, 270 - 1933 198, 205 - 1935 |
5 compartment second or third 4 wheels | 25' x 8'6" 16' | LE4MW | Built as Second Class:
12 in 1893 2 in 1894 4 in 1896 4 in 1896 4 in 1897 6 in 1897/8 4 in 1898 4 in 1898 |
54 to 65 73, 74 85 to 88 93 to 96 97 to 100 106 to 111 112 to 115 120 to 123 |
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252 sent to R&SB in 1920 and renumbered 4156 when it returned in 1924
2759 was converted to Wireless Van no. 40572 2773 was converted to M&T Van no. 173 |
Dates |
Built as Third Class:
18 in 1893 3 in 1894 6 in 1896 6 in 1896 6 in 1897 9 in 1897/8 6 in 1898 6 in 1898 |
2711 to 2728 2729 to 2731 2777 to 2782 2783 to 2788 2789 to 2794 303, 304, 311, 2795 to 2800 319, 321, 325, 327, 328, 333 340, 341, 343 to 345, 347 |
343 & 2787 sent to R&SB in 1920 and renumbered 4158 & 4198 when they returned in 1924 327, 340, 2712, 2719, 2723, 2724, 2791, 2792, 2798 to T4 2716, 2726, 2799, 2800 to T1 |
2789 - 1903 2725 - 1929 2720, 2731 - 1930 311, 2722 - 1931 344, 2714, 2727, 2782, 4158, 4198 - 1932 2711, 2785 - 1933 2717, 2788 - 1934 2715 - 1936 2713, 2729, 2730, 2784, 2786 - 1938 2721, 2781 - 1939 2797 - 1940 2790 - 1944 2718, 2777 - 1945 2793, 2794 - 1948 2728 - 1949 2796 - 1952 |
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5 compartment second or third 4 wheels | 26' x 8'6" 16' | LE4MW | Built as Second Class:
3 in 1893 12 in 1894 2 in 1894 3 in 1895 |
41 to 43 45 to 53, 75 to 77 78, 79 82 to 84 |
316 to 3 compt bk 3rd - T8
To workmans's: 79, 285, 459, 2749 To workman's with brake handle fitted in place of 1 seat: 285 - painted brown in 1934 & 1941 489 was sold to Tredegar iron & Coal Co. in 1925 |
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Built as Third Class:
6 in 1887 18 in 1888 6 in 1889 6 in 1889 1 in 1893 3 in 1894 1 in 1895 |
210, 235, 445, 520, 710, 755
178, 295, 421, 536, 545, 787, 791, 792, 1049, 1271, 1313, 1321, 1327, 1334, 1348, 1365, 1669, 1670 426, 467, 909, 1033, 1196, 1197 25, 272, 391, 448, 797, 995 302 2732 to 2734 323 |
295, 791 to T5
710, 787, 792, 1049, 1334 to 3 compt bk 3rd - T8 Renumbering: 1669 to 2755, 1670 to 2756 - both in 1895 To workmens's: 323, 545, 797, 1033, 1348, 2734, 2756 To workman's with brake handle fitted in place of 1 seat: 2732 |
235 - 1901
1033 - 1930 25, 272, 391, 467, 995, 1196 - 1931 210, 421, 426, 520, 536, 909, 1197, 1271, 1321, 1327, 1348, 1365, 2732, 2734 - 1932 178, 323, 448, 2755, 2756 - 1933 755 - 1934 445, 545 - 1935 797, 2733 - 1936 302 - 1937 1313 - 1950 |
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5 compartment third (later conversion workmen's thirds 4 wheels | 28' x 8'6" 19' | LE4MW | 1 converted from U6 in 1902 6 converted from U6 in 1933 to 1938 |
359 693, 697, 717, 733, 734, 740, 745 |
U6 9998 was first converted to a camping coach and then used in departmental use |
None | 339 - 1929 697 - 1936 717, 745 - 1938 693 - 1939 733 - 1940 734 - 1943 740 - 1945 |
5 compartment second/third 4 wheels | 28' x 8'6" 19' | LA0MW | 2 built in 1884 | Second class numbers: 166, 167
The bottom drawing suggests that coaches 210, 235, 445, 520, 710, 755 were built as S20 rather than S18.  However, the dimensions in the lot book and coaches registers are consistent with them being S18. |
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None | 484 - 1922 2465 - 1932 |
6 compartment third 4 wheels | 31' x 8'6" 19' | LA0MW | 2 built in 1884 | 1204, 1205 | 1205 converted to composite no.138 in 1898 with 2x second class and 4x third class compartments it was converted back to third no.2710 in 1907 | 1204 - 1929 2710 - 1930 |
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no diagram number 4 compartment workmen's third 4 wheels | 28' x 8' 16' | LA9N | 5 converted from R1 between 1922 & 1926 1 converted from U7 in 1925 |
291, 298, 300, 336, 640 112 |
None | 291, 620 - 1927 112, 300, 336 - 1928 |
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ex U1 no diagram number 4 compartment workmen's third | 25' x 8'6 16' | LE4MW | 3 converted from R3 in 1932 & 1933 3 converted from U1 |
688, 698, 702, 707, 714, 718 | 707 converted in 1940 to Pilot Van 74 and used in the Lydney breakdown train - see adjacent photograph | 714 - 1935 718 - 1936 698, 702 - 1938 688 - 1949 |
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no diagram number 4 compartment third | 26' x 8'6 17' | LE4MW | 1 converted from R5 in 1898 | 2354 | U2 in 1898 | ||
ex U2 no diagram number 4 compartment workmen's third | 26' x 8'6 17' | LE4MW | 4 converted from R5 4 converted from U2 |
600, 607, 620, 662, 687, 709, 710, 712 | None | 600 - 1931 620 - 1932 709, 710, 712 - 1933 607, 662 - 1934 687 - 1936 |
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no diagram number 4 compartment workmens's third 4 wheels | 26'10 x 8 17' |
LE7N | 38 converted from U4 | 696 converted to ED Central Wales Div, Caersws, Mess & Sleeping Van, 14146 in 1946
713 converted to Pilot Van 138 in 1942, Acton Goods Mess & Tool Van. 726 Painted brown in 1934 & 738 in 1937 739 & 742 converted to Wireless Vans 40570 & 40571 in 1942 747 converted to Mess & Sleeping Van 215 in 1946, Fitted with seat lockers, tables and shelves, Goldax cooking range. Improvements made in 1952. 748 converted to Mess & Tool Van 14070 in 1945 750 converted to Mess & Tool Van 14149 |
618 - 1932 659 - 1934 653, 660 - 1935 689, 723 - 1936 690, 699, 700, 722, 739 - 1937 691, 701, 703, 704, 708, 715, 728 - 1938 706, 725, 726, 735, 741 - 1939 716, 724, 732, 736 - 1940 738, 744 - 1945 731 - 1950 719 - 1951 721 - 1952 |
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1928 | 618 | ||||||
1931 | 653, 659, 660 | ||||||
1932 | 689, 690, 691, 696, 699, 700, 701 | ||||||
1933 | 703, 704, 706, 708, 713, 715, 722, 723, 724, 725 | ||||||
1934 | 726, 728 | ||||||
1936 | 716, 719, 721, 731, 732, 735, 736 | ||||||
1937 | 738, 739, 741, 742 | ||||||
1938 | 747, 748 | ||||||
1939 | 749 | ||||||
1940 | 750 | ||||||
no diagram number 4 compartment third 4 wheels |
1 converted from U4 | ||||||
1937 | 744 | 4 compartment third 6 wheels | 28' x 8' 9'2 - 9'2 built on old underframes, some 18'5 or 18'6 | LA9N | 4 converted from U9 | 206, 4190, 4192 & 4195 | 4190, 4192, 4195 - 1924 206 - 1930 |
4 compartment third 6 wheels (some 4 wheels) | 28' x 8' 9'6 - 9'6 (19') | CAA9N | 5 converted in 1923 to 1925 from U10 | 243, 866, 4171, 4175, 4199 | 4171 - 1925 866, 4175 - 1928 4199 - 1929 243 - 1930 |
3 compartment third and (guard &) luggage | 28'6 x 8' 18' | LA9N | 12 converted from U11, U12 & U13 between 1920 & 1928 | 521, 564, 569, 591, 597, 610, 611, 619(used twice), 640, 655, 665 | Compartments 3rd, 3rd, (Guard & )Luggage, 3rd | 521, 564, 597, 619, 640 - 1927 591 - 1928 569, 655, 665 - 1929 610 - 1930 619 - 1931 611 - 1932 |
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4 compartment luggage third / workman's third 4 wheels (some 6 wheels) | 31' x 8' 19' | LA9N | 1 converted from Slip Coach in 1907 (no.695)
44 converted from U15 & U16 between 1915 to 1927 |
306, 326, 348, 368, 466, 500, 531, 534, 540, 552, 558, 563, 567, 571, 574, 584, 588, 601, 604, 615, 625, 627, 629, 639, 642, 646, 659, 662, 668, 675, 690, 695, 852, 854, 856, 859, 861, 863, 871, 877, 883, 895, 4162, 4168, 4179 | 534 to R&SB 28 in 1919 625 to R&SB 80 in 1917, renumbered 4196 when returned in 1923 629 to R&SB 78 in 1917, allocated 4194 when returned in 1923 |
R&SB 28 - 1921 668 - 1922 4194, 4196 - 1924 500, 552, 563, 567, 584, 604, 639, 646, 675, 4162, 4168 - 1927 326, 531, 540, 588, 615, 662, 690, 695, 852, 854, 856, 859, 863, 871, 877, 4179 - 1928 348, 466, 574, 659, 861, 883 - 1929 368, 601, 627, 895 - 1930 |
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1 large compartment workman's third 4 wheels | 31' x 8' 19' | LA9N | 1 converted from U17 in 1926 | 288 | 288 - 1929 | ||
5 compartment workman's third | 31' x 8' 19' | LE12CN | 1 converted from U20 in 1931 | 640 | 640 - 1934 | ||
4 compartment workman's third | 31' x 8' 19' | LA12N | 1 converted from U21 in 1931 | 639 | 639 ex 6901 The partition between the former luggage compartment and the compartment to the left of it has been removed making it one large compartment. Wooden bench seats have been put around the outside of it. |
639 - 1938 | |
5 compartment third | 31' x 8' 9'6 x 9'6 | CAA12N | 1 converted in 1930 | 626 | 626 - 1932 | ||
4 compartment third | 31' x 8' 9'6 - 9'6 | 1 converted in 1915 | 532 | 532 to R&SB 5 in 1919, renumbered 4159 when returned in 1923 | 4159 - 1923 | ||
no diagram number 4 compartment third 4 wheels |
21' x 7'6 12' |
Worcester | 24 built in 1868 in 2 lots
24 built in 1869 |
27, 224 - 234
76, 79, 237 - 246 247 - 270 |
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no diagram number 4 compartment third 4 wheels |
21'6 x 7'6 12' |
Worcester | 24 built in 1869 | 331 - 354 | |||
no diagram number 5 compartment third 6 wheels |
26' x 7'6 17' |
LA9S | 30 built in 1870 | 425 - 450 | |||
no diagram number 4 compartment second 4 wheels |
23' x 7'6 14' |
LA9S | 55 built in 1870 in 2 lots | 5, 7, 9, 12, 14 - 18, 20, 31, 37, 39, 43 - 46, 48, 52, 64 - 66, 155, 164, 168
13, 33, 36, 53, 54, 56, 58, 59, 62, 68, 69, 75, 80, 84, 88 - 90, 92, 93, 102, 107, 118, 129, 130, 131, 137, 140, 145, 147, 149 |
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no diagram number 4 compartment second 4 wheels |
25' x 7'6 16' |
LA9S | 40 built in 1870 | 247 - 286 |